Friday, April 12, 2013

The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn - Well meaning? or Well deceiving?

"Thou art my hiding place

Thou shalt preserve me from trouble;
Thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance."
 Psalm 32:7

 In a search to discover a bio or details on the motivators, inspirations and/or places lived and influences of Mr. Cahn, including influential leaders he followed or was inspired by, I was left quite empty and alarmed. I was discouraged and then finding more sober minded spiritual leading sites, was again encouraged, but still quite disturbed at what appears to be a great deception. What do you think? Am I wrong? Pray three days before you make a final decision, then take action on what you believe. God bless ~ Chromedaffodils
 
 
 
 
Why no wiki page for him or his history? Where did he come from?
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"... I have more than a few thoughts on the book. To voice all of those thoughts would take pages, however, and so I'll sum it up and advise Christians to avoid this book ...

...This brings me to the critical issue I spoke of earlier: Is Jonathan Cahn trying to have his cake and eat it too? In other words, is TH really prophecy or is it fiction? He cannot have it both ways, which it appears to me he is trying to do. Allowing himself to be portrayed a prophet but leaving an escape hatch open by also claiming fiction..."

 
deleted because of deception, this was not THE prayer event, it was one put on separate by Mr. Cahn:
 
 
Called "The One" by an Indian leader, not a Christian leader.
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"The vision for Beth Israel began with Gary Selman, a Messianic Jewish businessman with a heart for sharing the Gospel to Jew and Gentile alike. Helping this vision become a reality was Reverend Charlie Rizzo of the Church of the Nazarene who gave early support to the new work.

Beth Israel became an independent work in 1988 under the leadership, pastorship, and rabbinate of Jonathan Cahn. In this first year it grew from a congregation of about 35 people to three times that size. It soon outgrew its first home in the Paramus Church of the Nazarene, but there was no money for a building.

It was then that an American Indian, "Wahu" Fuchs showed up on a Friday Night Service and told Jonathan that he was "the one." He further told Jonathan that God had instructed him to give him a check for $150,000, which he did, and which provided the funds needed for Beth Israel to purchase its first building.

After meeting a few months in the Holiday Inn in Paramus , Beth Israel moved into its first building, a former moose lodge on Garibaldi, Ave, in Lodi , New Jersey .

It wasn't long before Beth Israel outgrew this facility as well. Jonathan searched through northern Jersey for a larger place for two years but found nothing. Finally he was taken to a former department store in Garfield..."  

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"... If someone offers something that cannot be confirmed and supported by Scripture, run far, my friend…run fast.

How does a real prophet handle God's prophetic Word? Look at the guy through whom more "secrets" were revealed in the Old Testament than any other. No one has left us more Old Testament prophetic puzzles than Daniel. How did he handle the recognition of God's revelation in his time?

In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of Median descent, who was made king over the kingdom of the Chaldeans— in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, observed in the books the number of the years which was revealed as the word of the LORD to Jeremiah the prophet for the completion of the desolations of Jerusalem, namely, seventy years. So I gave my attention to the LORD God to seek Him by prayer and supplications, with fasting, sackcloth and ashes. I prayed to the LORD my God and confessed and said, "Alas, O LORD, the great and awesome God, who keeps His covenant and lovingkindness for those who love Him and keep His commandments, we have sinned, committed iniquity, acted wickedly and rebelled, even turning aside from Your commandments and ordinances. (Dan. 9:1-5)

Daniel is searching the Word which God has already given! Daniel, someone renowned for personal faithfulness to God's Word, discovers something no one else seems to be aware of which is inside the Word which God has already given! What does he do with this "secret"? Daniel begins by addressing the core issue of repentance of sin and obedience to the Word—that which has already been made known. He knows they are not going to get the greater fulfillment to come if they do not get what has already been revealed.

When faced with the imminent and inevitable fulfillment of God's prophetic Word, a true prophet first and foremost addresses the shortfall in living according to what God's people should already know. Daniel did not know how God would specifically fulfill the prophecies in Jeremiah, but he knew that it would be missed in whatever form it took by God's people if they did not repent and start living according to the Word already given to them. In other words, because people were not living according to the Word of God as already given, they were incapable of seeing what was about to be revealed in the prophetic Word of God! God is not going to reveal a "secret" to someone who is unwilling to obey the plain truth already provided. In fact, when Daniel was given an actual secret, he was told to keep it secret until God Himself would reveal it at God's appointed time. (Dan. 8:26-27)

Now here is an interesting supporting "revelation" from Scripture when it comes the unveiling of God's secrets. What would happen if God DID make one of His secrets known? How would we know for sure that this was authentically taking place?

The secret of the LORD is for those who fear Him,
And He will make them know His covenant. (Psalm 25:14)

It will only come to those who are obediently putting His Word into practice for the purpose of their further putting His Word into practice! Biblically speaking, "those who fear Him" is defined as someone who is intimately acquainted and so reveres the Lord that it is visibly proven by their obedience to His Word. This verse does not contradict the one previously quoted from Deuteronomy, but establishes what we know not only about every biblical prophet's ministry, but every sign and wonder recorded and still to come: it is always about obedience to the greater message of the Word. The Psalmist tells us that the end result is the deepest and most complete working of God's Word, to "know His covenant". This is the term which expresses having entered into a personal relationship with God based on the mutual terms of His Word. Authentic secrets from the Lord confirm His Word for those already in a right and obedient relationship in the most profound ways so that it has the greatest effect to reinforce obedience to His Word!

  • We know some "secrets" to be bogus because God does not reveal secrets to someone living a life apart from His Word.
  • We know some "secrets" to be bogus because they are not supported by nor conform to God's already provided Word.
  • We know some "secrets" to be bogus because they try to introduce something "new" that cannot be found in God's written Word.
  • We know some "secrets" to be bogus because they are so general, we do not know what to actually do with the information.
But we ultimately know to automatically reject anyone using the term "secret" without delving very deeply. Why?

"The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law. (Dt. 29:29)

"I have not spoken in secret,
In some dark land;
I did not say to the offspring of Jacob
'Seek Me in a waste place';
I, the LORD, speak righteousness,
Declaring things that are upright. (Is. 45:19)

What is here articulated through Isaiah in the Old Testament is expanded upon by Christ Himself:

Jesus answered him, "I have spoken openly to the world; I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all the Jews come together; and I spoke nothing in secret. (John 18:20)

Paul tells us that even when God reveals a mystery, it is verified by God's Word and those through whom His written Word was given, and that such is always freely and publicly revealed to the entire world and has as its ultimate purpose faithfulness to God's Word:

Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith; to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, be the glory forever. Amen. (Rom. 16:25-27)

What is, has, and most certainly will come many more times in the form of those claiming to reveal something "secret" is probably best explained by Peter for what it really is:

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. (2 Pe. 2:1-3)

Too many are so easily deceived because they spend absolutely no time in the Word, usually because to do so would mean having to address the persistent issues of personal sin in their life. They do not know what God's Word says, so they allow someone else to define it for them. It is like buying a diamond without ever actually knowing what a real diamond looks or feels like, so why not just take the salesman's word for it? But for those of us who strive to attain to being a Wise Virgin (Mt. 25:1-13) who remain committed to His Word in spite of the lateness of the hour, we have already been provided everything we authentically and literally need from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21. Everything else is an obvious and pale imitation...."

 
 
Question to pastors: Would the/a false prophet do this? http://www.hopeoftheworld.org/
 
*Then I thought to search Jesus on the whole site. Well, there were only 27 mentions, some duplicates and none proclaiming the gospel, trinity, gift of everlasting life, etc. This bothered me to wonder what he was drawing people to, he eludes to Jesus, but there isn't hard core evidence of it on his main site for end times. I would think that vital to the message. Did I miss something?
 
 
 
Put on the whole Armor of God:
 
Billy Graham November 2013 event: My hope for America - A true revival in my opinion!
 
Interesting, encouragement:
 

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